Ancestry Adventures

British Library visit #5

Hello there,

Well as you can tell by the title, I was off having another Library adventure. (After a ‘politically forced’ (brexit) break of almost 4 months)

Was great to get back into hunting “British India dead people” hahaha

Initially I had booked just a few days (Sun 28th to Tues 30th Apr) as that’s all the hostel (YHA) appeared to have at the time. Though kept an eye on their website, to see if any rooms became available again. Then the day before I was heading off I was able to book another few days (checking out Thur 2nd May).

I get to the hostel & at some point in the few minutes of getting to the hostel & before checking in, I noticed that the traffic lights (pretty much opposite the hostel), now had little yellow crossing boxes on them, so that was cool. It meant I could cross straight over & to the library, instead of crossing at the lights further down the road.

I get to the library & get a quick “welcome back” from J, I say hi back.

I look up the birth & marriage docs I wanted & email them to myself. (Though in returning home I discover I managed to mess that up! So only have HALF the docs I wanted agh!!!)

Next I look though the Bombay & Madras directories, hunting for Matthew DeSouza & Francis Mason

Found a few mentions of a ‘Matthew DeSouza’ in the Bombay directories that fits with the obituary (See blog for the obituary)

Matthew DeSouza

Pausing for a moment & looking at the obituary again myself. …. Agh, I feel really silly … at bottom of first paragraph, it says Matthew was an Assistant Collector. … Agh I’m such a twit!, don’t know why, but I had it in my head that Matthew was a DEPUTY Collector.

Didn’t find anything for Francis Mason in the Madras directories, was only finding his son, also called Francis (Francis George Daniel Mason)

I try records relating the G.I.P Rly, didn’t find anything.

Returning to the hostel from my Wednesday library hunting, I ask about maybe extending my stay again. I struggle to decide whether to extend my stay or not for much of the evening. Thursday morning I decide “oh heck with it, do it” So I now have another 3 days. (So five nights at the hostel & six days of library hunting in all)

Didn’t really do much on Thursday, just browsing the shelves & attempting looking though some of the “Thacker’s” directories. I only half heartedly flick though a couple of the directories. For kind of two reasons really,

1 – The “Thacker” directories are so big & quick complex, its like needle in a haystack. I just keep putting off looking though them. The “East India directories

2 – I’m feeling pretty disheartened in not really finding anything.

Fri & Sat was a lot batter hunting wise. I decide to look though the “Times of India” directories. I find lots for “W Todd”, “N.N DeVida, a couple of “Jenet’s” more DeVida’s also a load of other Todd’s (some related some maybe not be)

Regard “W Todd” it might be two W Todd’s might just be one, need to re-cheek my tree info & perhaps more re-search to do.

While, for most of this trip I was failing really HARD in my hunting efforts. I have to be pleased with my efforts in the last couple of hunting days. Managing to get though about 45 “Times of India” directories in two days.

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

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G.I.P Rly – Great Indian Peninsula Railway

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Groves & Whitnall Artifacts

Hello there,

Finally got round to showcasing the ‘Groves & Whitnal’ Brewery items I have so far.

– Stoneware Bottles (1 large & 2 much smaller ones)
– 3 Glass Bottles (various sizes)
– Large mug
– A selection of beer mats
– a Groves & Whitnall Brewery truck
– Book about the Groves & Whitnall Brewery

The book was published for the 50th Anniversary of the Brewery, as you see from the short note within the book.

I may shortly be adding a Groves And Whitnall Ash Tray to the collection

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry/Surname Adventures!

SNGF – Facebook Meme

Hello there,

Has been quite a few years since I did a “SNGF” post, so here we go.

1. Who are you named after? – Don’t Know

2. Last time you cried? – 5-6 days ago (27th Feb 2019). My Sister (Nina) telling me her house had been burgled & our Sister’s Ashes had been disturbed. (crying bit now) ….. (Our Sister Tasha/Natasha died almost 10 years ago now.)

3. Do you like your handwriting? – No

4. What is your favorite lunch meat? – N/A

5. Spicy or sweet? – Sweet, though I will eat mild spicy food – Korma, Tikka Masala

6. Longest relationship? – Daughter 41 years & Sibling 37 years

7. Do you still have your tonsils? – Don’t Know

8. Would you bungee jump? – Hell NOOOOOOOO!

9. What is your favorite kind of cereal? – I don’t usually eat cereal, but cereal of choice are Shreddies

10. Do you untie your shoes when you take them off? – No, I wear slip on shoes

11. Do you think you’re strong? – Not really

12. Favorite ice cream? – Mint Choc Chip

13. What is the first thing you notice about a person? – Their Face mainly, but depends on the person.

14. Football or baseball? – Nether

15. What color pants are you wearing? – NOYB (lol) …. but if “pants” is just the USA term for Trousers, then Black Leggings

16. Last thing you ate? – McVite’s club biscuit

17. What are you listening to? – N/A

18. If you were a crayon, what color would you be? – Don’t Know

19. What is your Favorite Smell? – Don’t Know

20. Who was the last person you talked to on the phone? – My Mother

21. Are you married? – No

22. Hair color? – Brown

23. Eye color? – Hazel

24. Favorite foods to eat? – Pasta & Chocolate (though not together lol)

25. Scary movies or happy endings? – Happy Endings

26. Last movie you watched? – Bohemian Rhapsody

27.What color shirt are you wearing? – Red

28. What is your favorite holiday? – N/A

29. Beer or Wine? – I don’t drink

30. Night Owl or Morning person? – Night Owl

31. Favorite day of the week? – Don’t have one

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

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SNGF – Saturday Night Genealogy Fun

NOYB – None of your Business

Blog News

Hello there,

About a week or so ago, I went to watch the film “Bohemian Rhapsody” with Mum & Sister (sis had come over for week). The film was super cool, silently singing along with it a few times (lol). The only down side was, I found the film lighting was quite bright & hard going at times, I still really enjoyed it though.

Bit of a “SPOILER ALERT” Fact-Checking the Queen Film, ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’

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Sisterly News

Don’t really know WHAT to call this kind of news! (This should probably be in its own blog post)

My sister (Nina) emailed me yesterday (26th Feb 2019) asking if I had got her Facebook messages. I check my Facebook messages & find this

Mon 19:28
Hi, just wanted to let you know that Darren and I got engaged today. He took me to Italy for my birthday and proposed this afternoon 😊. I’ve told mum so you both know now xxx

I’ve since learnt my half sister (Lucy) is also engaged (Lucy got engaged on her 30th birthday. (10 Feb 2019) )

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Ancestry News

Had been seeing in a number of my Facebook groups that Ancestry (.com & .co.uk) now have some awesome new (Beta) tools. Two of which you need to ‘Enable’ on the Ancestry Lab page at the bottom of the “Extras” Menu. Two of the new tools are DNA based the other is online tree based.

Have been trying out all the new tools & I think they’re going to be really interesting.

A bunch of links explaining more about the new tools

Ancestry’s new Ancestry Lab (Blog from ‘Britishgenes’)

Ancestry advances at RootsTech (Blog from ‘Legalgenealogist’)

Ancestry makes major improvements, adding tools for DNA matches and online trees (Blog from ‘Genealogyalacarte’)

A few blogs from geneamusings.com
Ancestry Announces MyTreeTags™ Feature in Beta Release

Ancestry Introduces New and Improved DNA Matching Tools Feature in Beta

Ancestry Introduces New AncestryDNA ThruLines™ Feature in Beta Release

Using the AncestryDNA ThruLines™ Feature to Find Common Ancestors

Also a few blogs from ‘Familyhistoryhound’
Be Prepared To Stay Up Tonight – Ancestry Has New Tools

Be Prepared To Stay Up Tonight – Ancestry Has New Tools Part 2

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

British Library Visit #4

Hello there,

Finally writing about my latest Library adventure.

I went British Library again about 3 weeks ago, was a bit of a ‘last minute” thing. So I hadn’t really planned what I wanted to do or anything, but I still had some super awesome finds.

By the end of my 4 day visit I had found

– The deaths for Emidio & Jane Elizabeth (nee Terry) DeSouza

– More info on the occupation of Emidio DeSouza

– More info on Philip DeSouza

Here are links to their Ancestry Profiles Emidio DeSouza, Jane Elizabeth Terry and Philip Clement DeSouza

sydney terry's tree

Sydney’s side is a lot harder to find stuff on due the Portuguese Ancestry.

I just have to keep hunting !!

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

My 2019 Plans/To Do/Wish List

Hello there,

Ok, think I’m really to post this now!

Genealogy / Ancestry / Family History

– Continue my British Library Visits (need to plan out what I want to do)

– Order a bunch of GRO certs (before BMD prices go up 16 Feb 2019)

– Add the GRO certs I have to my tree/s

– Look into volunteering with FIBIS (British Library look ups etc)

– Maybe visit The National Archives (to at least get feel for layout etc)

– Participate more in Blog Prompts, Book of Me, Blog Party, SNGF & other fun posts whenever I can

Genealogy / Ancestry / Family History Education & Events

7-8 Jun The Genealogy Show (Have mostly booked everything for this)

24-26 Oct Rootstech, London (Have booked accommodation, just waiting for the workshops list)

Pharos Courses One-Place Studies and TNA Website & Catalogue

Surname Studies

– Try & plan out what I want to do

– Continue hunting for items & artifacts to add to my Study Name/s collection.

General

– Do an average of at least 3 posts a month

– Replace a couple of bookcases that no longer fit my needs

– Get a better filing cabinet (want draws that pull out more fully)

– Go though both my blogs (this one & my Political & Activism one) and pick-out the posts I want to print out (for a “me’ folder)

– Continue prepping & stocking up on “stuff” over the next 2-3 months (Brexit)
(Toiletries, Kitchen & Food Cupboard Stuff, Stationery etc). No one really knows WHAT is gonna happen. Its all very worrying really.

Maybe to do list (lol)

– Stop getting distracted quite so much on BSO’s

– Find & DNA test ever more family members, so connect with even more cousins & distant cousins.

I may add to this if I think of anything else.

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

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BSO – Bright Shiny Object

GRO – General Register Office

FIBIS – Families in British India Society

SNGF – Saturday Night Genealogy Fun ( Randy Seaver from Genea-Musings)

My 2018 Plans Review

Hello there,

Do I dare see how I did in My Plans for 2018 ? …. (gulp)

I did rather well with the first heading  “My goals / plans”

While I didn’t really blog “fortnightly” or any “Blog Prompts” etc I still achieved 30+ posts.

I did get 2-3 Birth, Marriage & Death Certificates

Did have a family relative DNA test (mid to end of March) Resulting in SOLID proof regarding my Gran’s (Dorothe Verna Terry) Paternal Grandmother’s line. I’m VERY grateful to them in doing the test. While it was just 1 test, I have connected with more cousins & distant cousins.

Since I’m nearly ALWAYS getting ‘cool & interesting’ books (much to my mother’s dismay!) I can give myself a big tick for that one!

What was next of the list? … Oh yes,

[ – Make several trips/visits to the British Library – my India line. (Have not yet succeeded, so this now well ‘over due’. … Will I succeed in 2018?) ]

If you’ve been following my adventures, I think you’ll agree the last quarter of 2018 I was VERY SUCCESSFUL with that one *laughs*  Making three visits to the British Library,(and a whole lot more visits to come in 2019!).

[ – Make contact with the Milan Achieves – my Tognoli line. ] This was a big fail, but that is ok, since it’s NOT the Milan Achieves I need. Its the Pavia Achieves to contact.

See A Paternal “brickwall” (Tognoli) & Paternal Fam Tree Adventures I’ve not really done a lot on my paternal line, also I don’t really know direction to go etc.

Next heading was “Surname Studies goals / plans”  This was half &  half really, didn’t make any progress  data wise. Have added a few artifacts, bottles, books & various photos.

My last heading was Personal goals / plans”  If I’m brutally honest, I didn’t really do very well at all (hangs head in shame)

I did keep on top on my washing up for most of the first half of the year. Then by mid to late June to mid to late August I didn’t want to do ANYTHING but stay right next to my fan, it was so hot.

Even Northern Ireland was hot,(went there for my Birthday) I got sun burnt.

What adventures will I have in 2019

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

 

Xmas 2018

Hello there,

Went to my Mum’s late evening on Xmas Eve

This is what greeted me when I went to my room, I thought it was cool.

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Following morning, I joined my sister in Mum’s room to open our stockings, here is what I got. (the red box is a few Indian sweets, the cup & saucer is a bird food thing)

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I went back to bed for a bit, then go up & went down for breakfast. After that we did presents. I give Mum a desert Island Discs book & a few other bits. I gave me Sister a radio 1 live lounge cd.

Here are my goodies

About 2-3 hours later we had food

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We watched TV a bit, then had Brandy Snaps, fruit & cream for pudding, back though to the living room watched a bit more TV. Then I asked to to head home

A few days later I decided to go into town, got dozen rolls of wrapping paper for about £6-7 (50p each, 2 were 75p), I got a load of gift bags (19) for about £10-£12 (most of them were 60p each down from £2.50-£3, the 4 smaller ones were 35p from £1.50)

You think I was gonna pass a huge bargain up? ….. hahahahaha

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

British Library Visit #3

Hello there,

I got a final 2018 visit to the British Library in, once again it didn’t disappoint.

While it doesn’t feel like it, I got quite a lot done.

I looked though
– A dozen books from the Histories of Services collection (V.12)
(Looking for info on Sydney & a couple of his brothers (John & Harold). Found a few bits for Sydney and info on John). I just need to keep looking, there’s loads of books in this collection.

– A few Bombay Army Annual Returns for anything regard John Edward Terry Desousa (Didn’t find anything)

Voluntary Aid Detachment books, for anything relating my Gran (Dorothe Verna Terry) Didn’t find anything. (Need to check the dates I was looking at)

– Also tried ordering The Times of India Newspaper, but I’d somehow written the wrong shelf mark (SM) down. After looking up the right ‘SM’ I didn’t know what year/s I wanted to look at.

In between times (while waiting on ordered items) I looked though

– A few Thacker’s Indian Directory books.
Had some really AWESOME finds, which I want to redo. (Some info on Philip Clement de Sousa, John Edward Terry de Sousa, Robert Parrott)

Finding even just the tiny bit of info regard Philip Clement de Sousa & John Edward Terry de Sousa.  It’s hard to describe, were a few (loudish) yells of “YES” … FINALLY” & air punches.  Christmas came early for me.

– Nearly all the Indian Army list books, for everything on William Fitzallan Parrott (William was an assistant Medical Surgeon between 1895 – 1927)

– Had a brief flick though  some books called Asylum Press Almanac  (I didn’t really know what they were & didn’t think they would be relevant to my hunting, but after looking though my FIBIS (Families in British India Society) fact file booklet, I learnt this set of books would be useful to look though!)

As before the reference desk staff were “Super Awesome” helping me find what something meant in the ‘Indian Army list’ books. Suggesting things to check out. A couple of them (D & J) occasionally coming out & asking how I was doing etc

My hunting was a little harder, due to not having any of my folders to refer to when I needed, but I managed.

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

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Here’s a pic of my Gran’s direct line tree, showing how people (mentioned in this blog) are related

Venra's direct line tree

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Colour key

Books on the open shelves within the Library

Books & ‘stuff’ you need to order up from the storage archive

British Library Visit #2

Hello there,

Well my 2nd British Library Visit in the bag.

I went up last week (11th – 17th Nov 2018), I was initially was only going til 15th Nov 2018, but I decided to extend my stay at the YHA an extra couple of nights.

My visit this time was loads better, I was MUCH more prepared. Did have a couple of ‘crappy’ unproductive days though. There’s always gonna be crappy, unproductive days in family history.

The Asian & African Studies staff, were again super awesome, helped me loads.

Had a few “Oh, you twit” moments, as well as some really cool finds.

One of my ‘twit’ moments was, I had been looking though the “UK appointments to Indian Railways 1849-1925 Index” I went to ask if they had any thing else regard Indian Railways, the woman at the desk picked up on of the booklets that were on the desk (a FIBIS fact file), I instantly (inwardly) groaned, cos I had my own copy with me.

FIBIS – Families in British India Society

Another was, one of the items I had ordered up from the archives was showing as “ready for collection” so I go to collect it, the guy tells me I had already looked at it and sent it back. I reply “No I don’t think so” ….. I go check my notes & discover ‘Oh yes, I had looked at it, I tell the guy “yea, you’re right”

Now some of my really cool finds

One of my cool finds was a marriage record for one of Sydney Terry’s nephews, ‘Vernon Jenet’ …….. witnessed by William Fitzallan Parrott (Sydney Terry’s father in law.)

Vernon Jenet & Olga Bird Marriage

[How people are related]

– Vernon Jenet, is Olive & Lionel Jenet’s son

– Lionel Jenet is Olive Terry’s 1st husband (Olive married twice)

– Olive Terry is one of Sydney Terry sisters

– Sydney Terry is my Gran’s Father.

– My Gran is Dorothe Verna Terry

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Finding a couple of ‘Terry’ relations (Harold & Edward Terry) in the Indian Army records of service c1900-1947 Index.

 

Ordering and getting photos of Harold & Edward’s Service Records. (Harold & Edward are 2 of Sydney’s brothers)

 

The smaller image is from Edward Vernon Terry’s Records & the other is from Harold Godfrey Terry’s Records.

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Some other pics I took were of info regard Sydney’s occupation

Sydney Terry

( From Histories of Services: Punjab 1938-1939 [V/12/344] )

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William Fitzallan Parrott

W F Parrott

I took a couple of other pics from the same book (Thacker’s Indian Directory 1897) but they didn’t turn out very well.

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In the last hour or so of my last day (of my 2nd visit block) one of the ref desk guys (I’ll call D) came out from their staff area & asked how I was doing. I told/showed him what I’d got managed to do that day. I asked if the ‘other guy’ (I’ll call J) was about, D said J was out at that moment but would let J know.

They both (D & J) came out a bit later & I updated J in the days finds & stuff. D & J went back into their staff area, I finished off what I was doing, then called a day at about 4.30 & went back to the hostel.

What will I manage to find next time! ….. who knows!.

Am already planning visit #3 lol

That’s all for now, so till next time, stay tuned for some more Ancestry Adventures!

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